Posts by Evidently Apostate

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April WT is out. Blood, FDS, moses & crazy stuff...

by bohm in

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the april wt is out, get it while you can.

what caught my attention was the first article.

some quotes:.

Evidently Apostate

finally an illustration i can follow, not the "we are not perfect, but we are giving out GODS direction" bullshit but maybe if they are the cloud of smoke that leads his people they will let me wander around in this present wilderness doing my own thing until i die. after that they can prophesy all they want

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Attended meeting last night

by sd-7 in

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i was almost as worried as if i was giving a talk instead of my wife last night.

i parked and they went in well before me.

i gathered my thoughts and realized that it was only proper that way.

Evidently Apostate

sd7,

my wife still pushes me to go and once a month or so i concede. i too see people i like and smile and make small talk but for the most part they truly enjoy the mindless bullshit they are filling their minds on. i harbor no bad feelings toward the average dub but realize i am now in a place where i have no true friends and for that reason i will never go back.

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Keeping my shields up is wearing me out

by Evidently Apostate in

sometimes i find myself carefully monitering a persons body language, whatching for instinctive reactions listening carefully to thier words.

just jws and some extended family, and almost anyone i do business with.

not out of fear but to find out if there is a selfish motive or agenda.

Evidently Apostate

Sometimes i find myself carefully monitering a persons body language, whatching for instinctive reactions listening carefully to thier words. just JWs and some extended family, and almost anyone i do business with. not out of fear but to find out if there is a selfish motive or agenda. i hope this is just part of the process and i am walking the beginning stages of my freedom.

or i could just be paranoid.

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My Story Part I - My Parents

by Farkel in

part 1 - my parents.

it's a funny thing, time.

notwithstanding einstein's relativity, time means vastly different things throughout life.

Evidently Apostate

sorry you had such an abusive mother. did she treat your siblings the same way?

i had a discussion with my FIL about his elder school exp.

by Evidently Apostate in

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one comment made by the speaker was " people think they are happy because they are satisfied.

but look at a smoker, he is satisfied and yet noone would say they were happy as a smoker".

i looked at him and asked why they would use an analogy that contained a deadly habit as a way to get you to visualize happiness?

Evidently Apostate

one comment made by the speaker was " people think they are happy because they are satisfied. but look at a smoker, he is satisfied and yet noone would say they were happy as a smoker". i looked at him and asked why they would use an analogy that contained a deadly habit as a way to get you to visualize happiness? why not use a person who likes food,thier work, education, as the subject? wouldnt get the message i guess especially when directed to nonbelievers who would find those accomplishments satisfying and contribute to happiness.

it seems the slave is telling elders the flock may be content, satisfied, even a little lethargic but never happy! (straight from the school) Thought JWs were the happy people?

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when will i taste freedom?

by Evidently Apostate in

for all those that have been able to rescue thier loved ones from this religion the feeling of freedom and security must feel incredible no matter what outside influence attacks you it must be easier to fend off with a family united.

i am not one of those situations and i am always dancing around the truth about the truth with my wife.

she can turn on the blinders and question me and level blanket statements like" you dont belive in an armageddon" or "your a completely different person than you were a year ago".

Evidently Apostate

i have read CoC and i am going to purchase hassans books. i am trying to be concious of the mind control and fighting my own reasonings at times so his book should help. i am alone for christmas this year, everyone went to FL to visit her family too crowded and way to much fighting(from the happiest people no less) for me. i mentioned this to someone i work with and they couldnt believe i was alone this week. i havent celebrated since my youth and as a JW it wouldnt mean anything but the kids are missing out and even the gift day we had recently is a joke when they cant buy gifts for friends at school, have a tree, etc.i would like them to enjoy the holidays for what they really are before they are grown. coping with a religion that could separate a family is stressfull and i also have good and bad moments Walk Tall, sharing your feelings means something here as a JW can shut off compassion and concern instantly. sometimes my conviction needs reassuring.

Thanks, GJ,Nugget,Perry, Butterfly and the rest. Dark uncle thanks

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Got a letter inviting me to my Judicial hearing- should I go?

by hoggieman in

hey everyone, my family and i have not gone to meeting in over a year.

rumors have swirled about us, but i have always dodged the elders calls and never said anything about my feelings.

so after a while the calls/visits dwindled, but in october they came by again and saw our halloween decorations.

Evidently Apostate

unless you are willing to admit your sin and plead for forgiveness its a done deal and arguing they were just pumpkins will probably get you nowhere. it sounds like you are moving on with your life anyway, why go to a kangaroo court?

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I Think, Watchtower Mislead ACLU to Support Them

by Scott77 in

please, what do you think after reading new article?

i think the watchtower is itself, an abuser of people's religious rights like the right to one's choice of religion.

look, many individuals are stalked over the years, all in the name of religion.

Evidently Apostate

i have to agree with the ACLU as much pain as this religions preaching has done they have the right to go publicly from house to house. they are having almost zero effect with it in most of the industrialized nations and it is wearing a lot of them down which hopefully gets them to give up by themselves or at least start to question the logic and direct them to the internet another freedom i am greatfull for

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Take the Kids Exposed to JW Stuff to the Disney Movie, "TANGLED." Great Message For Them

by OnTheWayOut in

i took my wife to this movie and pried her a bit on the way home to make her think about how sometimes the people we trust are our enemies.. the disney movie, tangled, is their spin on the repunzel story.

i'll try not to spoil their movie and still make the point of why this is a great movie to take a jw to, the older and closer to adulthood the better.

you total adults with jw adult loved ones should drag them to it.. the villain takes repunzel away from her life (as a baby) and keeps her in "the tower" for her own evil purposes.

Evidently Apostate

its a shame but i think any similarities would just go over their heads even if they were pointed out.

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when will i taste freedom?

by Evidently Apostate in

for all those that have been able to rescue thier loved ones from this religion the feeling of freedom and security must feel incredible no matter what outside influence attacks you it must be easier to fend off with a family united.

i am not one of those situations and i am always dancing around the truth about the truth with my wife.

she can turn on the blinders and question me and level blanket statements like" you dont belive in an armageddon" or "your a completely different person than you were a year ago".

Evidently Apostate

for all those that have been able to rescue thier loved ones from this religion the feeling of freedom and security must feel incredible no matter what outside influence attacks you it must be easier to fend off with a family united. i am not one of those situations and i am always dancing around the truth about the truth with my wife. she can turn on the blinders and question me and level blanket statements like" you dont belive in an armageddon" or "your a completely different person than you were a year ago". the painful truth is even though some days i see the real woman someone who sees plainly the oppresive demanding tactics used by the JW's, she usually becomes very agitated and concerned about me and looks at me like she is losing me. if anything i am afraid the opposite is true. why is logic so hard to accept for a JW? i know the cult mentality has a huge hold on someone i have given 20 years to, we have amazing children and because of our tempered and tolerant stance about this religion we have avoided painful situations those who are more strict with thier children have had. i feel sometimes we are headed down a path that will break us apart and it will be all approved in WT land. is there ever a reason to put religious doctrine before a good family? her parents are completely full of themselves, brainwashed card carrying obnoxious zealots with no regard to the sacredness of our marriage and even though they do not know my current views of the society, the paranoya is at a fever pitch and it scares my wife right back to the dark side. i have gained a lot of insight from reading many, many posts on here and have learned what to say and what not to say and nothing seems to just click with her as it did with me. anyway i refuse to give up on her and the kids but i needed to vent and this forum has been a good source of peace for me so thanks for the time.